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13 Reasons Why, Discussion Points

Prepared by the Community Suicide Prevention Network

Up-dated: April 26th

The Community Suicide Prevention Network of Ottawa is aware that many of you, your friends and your kids may be watching the Netflix series, 13 Reasons Why.

Television can be an excellent springboard for discussion – which is what this series is doing, however much of the material is graphic and potentially triggering for vulnerable people, so please be cautious.

With this in mind, we have developed some talking discussion points and suggestions. If you are a parent of a teenager or twentysomething, we suggest you ask if they have watched the series or are watching the series and use this as an opportunity for open discussion.  Some questions to guide the conversation include:

Some additional points:

Talking openly and honestly about emotional distress and suicide is ok. It will not make someone more suicidal or put the idea of suicide in their mind. If you are concerned about someone, ask them about it.

Knowing how to acknowledge and respond to someone who shares their thoughts of emotional distress or suicide with you is important. Don’t judge them or their thoughts. Listen. Be caring and kind. Offer to stay with them. Offer to go with them to get help or to contact a crisis line.

  1. A reminder that this series is fictional. When you die you do not get to make a movie or talk to people any more. Leaving messages from beyond the grave is a dramatization produced in Hollywood and is not possible in real life.
  2. Suicide and the reasons for it are very complex. There is no one single reason why someone takes their life. In fact, suicide is not a common response to life’s challenges or adversity. The vast majority of people who experience bullying, the death of a friend, or any other adversity described in the series do not die by suicide. In fact, most reach out, talk to others and seek help or find other productive ways of coping. They go on to lead healthy, normal lives.
  3. Suicide is never glamorous or romantic as this series may lead someone to believe. Death by suicide is tragic and permanent.
  4. It is important to know that, in spite of the portrayal of a serious treatment failure in 13RW, there are many treatment options for life challenges, distress and mental illness. Most people who are struggling reach out, talk to others, persist in seeking help or find effective ways of coping.
  5. Suicide is never the fault of survivors of suicide loss. There are resources and support groups for suicide loss survivors in our community including a peer support group that runs out of Bereaved Families of Ontario, Ottawa office.
  6. Ask if your child’s school in Ottawa is running Sources of Strength, a suicide prevention program that promotes help seeking among youth. For schools that have the program, consider hosting a campaign about breaking codes of silence around suicide and seeking help from adults. For peer leaders in Sources of Strength, remember, if we have a friend who is struggling – with trauma, with suicide thoughts, with substance abuse – we can connect them, not just to one strength, but multiple strengths. Our message has always been to connect to mental health support, but don’t stop there – connect to other strengths as well! This show creates opportunities to share real life stories of strengths, of what has helped with trauma, depression, and suicidal thoughts. A personal story of using your strengths is many times more powerful than a fictional story about trauma. Remember our mission is to bring hope, help, and strength into our communities.
  7. Encourage help seeking behavior and talk about trusted adults and resources in our community including walk-in counselling, peer support and support groups and individual counselling. Discuss with youth that the helper characters in the show were not depicted in an accurate way. There are adults in the school, and in the community who care and who can help. Here are some good numbers to have on hand where you can speak to people who can provide support:

24/7 – YSB Crisis Line for youth- 613-260-2360 (Youth Services Bureau provides youth and family counselling, crisis support, a 24/7 crisis line)

24/7 – Distress Centre– 613-238-3311 (the Distress Centre answers calls 24 hours a day, seven days a week, with crisis line specialists providing confidential support)

Tel-Aide Outaouais– 613-741-6433 (Francophone mental health crisis support by telephone from 8 a.m. to midnight every day.)

LGBT Youthline– 1-800-268-9688 (confidential and non-judgmental peer support through telephone, text and chat services from Sunday to Friday, 4:00PM to 9:30 PM).

Ottawa Sexual Assault Support Centre –613 234 2266 (support line, counselling for survivors of sexual violence)

Talking Points

When you are talking about the show, it’s important to support young people to understand that:

Suicide affects everyone and everyone can do something to help if they see or hear warning signs that someone is at risk of suicide. To learn more about suicide prevention consider taking safeTALK  or ASIST training so you are prepared to help someone who may be having thoughts of suicide.

Note: These talking points were taken from a document created by the Suicide Awareness Voices of Education & the Jed Foundation, in collaboration with Netflix. The Ontario School Board and Waterloo Region Suicide Prevention Council and the Sources of Strength program also contributed to developing this resposne. For more information, contact Andrea Poncia at [email protected], or on Twitter @ottprevention.

This entry was posted on Friday, April 21st, 2017 at 11:37 am.

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Given the opportunity, homeless youth with serious mental illness can stay off the streets, study indicates

“I  focused the study on homeless youth because there’s real potential for this group that the right, early intervention could prevent a lifetime of chronic health and social difficulties,” said Dr. Kozloff. “The risk for youth on the street is so high: they have a significantly decreased life expectancy compared to housed youth.”

“Making sure you have peer or family support, attending therapy, keeping track of medication, getting bloodwork, eating properly and getting enough sleep – these things become extremely challenging when you’re living on the street.”

Click here to read the whole story.


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Ontario campus counsellors drowning in #mentalhealth needs

Ontario colleges and universities are facing a mental health crisis as campus counsellors are overwhelmed by the growing need for services, according to a new study from the provincial association that represents heath service providers on campuses.

13 per cent of students had seriously considered suicide in the previous year (up from 10 per cent in 2013).

“Many of us who oversee counselling services describe our day as using a finger to stop a flood and the demand for our services far outstrips our capacity to support students.”

Click here to read the full article

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One way to take action to #preventsuicide, enroll for #ASIST training in #Ottcity.

Most people considering suicide share their distress and their intent.  Training can help us see and respond to these invitations for help.  It can give you the confidence to ask about suicide if you are concerned about someone’s safely.  It can provide you with the tools to help prevent the immediate risk of suicide. It can give you the confidence to ask about suicide if you are concerned about someone’s safely.  It can provide you with the tools to help prevent the immediate risk of suicide.

Click here to learn more and to register to attend the ASIST training. 

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Join us for #WSPD on September 9th on Parliament Hill to learn more about how Inuit communities are promoting resilience and celebrating life.

ITK Event

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#Suicide and #LGBTQYouth, implications for clinicians

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Join us on Sept 8 for a @Facebook Live event for World #SuicidePrevention Day: Know What To Do #Ottawa #mentalhealth

Poster SPD 2016

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This #SuicidePreventionDay join us for a concert to experience the healing power of music. #ottcity

On September 10th, from sunrise to sunset..

Experience the healing power of music as it draws Canadians together in a series of concerts in 13 cities from coast to coast. The Mysterious Barricades Concert Society will present some of Canada’s finest performers, featuring a variety of musical styles. All concerts will be livestreamed throughout the day on the website.

See the poster below to find out more about when and where to enjoy the concert in Ottawa.

mysterious barricades poster ottawa

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Click here to access Gapminder World, a site with tables outlining the rates of death by suicide around the world. 

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“like with most things, children benefit from early intervention so our biggest stress is to know what to watch for that so you can help them grow stronger and healthier.”

Click here to read more about the rates of death by suicide among children both in Canada and elsewhere in the world, and find out about strategies and resources that can help us prevent it. 

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